The kernel uses scheduling algorithms and assigns priority to each task for providing good average performances or throughput. Example of a 2-port card: From experimentation, Ive found the first port (the on-card
timing reference for the step pulses. I have a newly installed system following the.
System has onboard parallel port with EPP+ECP set. Onboard Graphics without problem Debian Wheezy Went from jitter of over 1,000,000 to 25000 with the BIOS rollback. appropriate place in your .hal file. The reason for this is that Linux now uses the intel_idle (replaces acpi_idle) driver to control the c-states, this driver ignores BIOS setting regarding C-states. Represents the current status of the IO thread. CNC Pi (e) ven 8 apr 2016, 09.41.15, CEST and re-arrange things, be sure to check these values before you
Boot params "isolcpus=2,3 idle=poll processor.max_cstate=0 ", 4Gb RAM, SSD, onboard video, no network. That is to say, these sources cause hindrance to the realtime performance of a task. Now, the user can both introduce and set priorities to each and every task.
I've tried a just a couple of times with short (10000) and longer (100000) duration and different CPU Sorry mate thought it was a quad core. The reasons for the design of RTLinux can be understood by examining the working of the standard Linux kernel. Most have had good results with Dell Optiplex series of PCs. 1 2 Next End Project_Hopeless Topic Author Offline Premium Member 15 May 2019 00:45 #133797 Latency Tuning Questions was created by Project_Hopeless I'm tuning a Dell Inspirion Pentium DualCore E2180 to run a yet to be purchased 7i96e Mesa card. A lowly Pentium II that responds to interrupts within 10 microseconds
Latency is how long it takes the PC to stop what it is doing and respond to an external request, such as running one of LinuxCNC's periodic realtime threads.
Multiple YouTube, Ubuntu10.04LTS 2.6.32-122-rtai kernel 2GB RAM, 30GB SATA/SSD, hyperthreading disabled, PS/2 keyboard and mouse, no isolcpus parameter, test ran 15m with 2Xglxgears, web surfing, taking directory listing of external USB HD, playing movie from external HD in VLC, Ubuntu10.04LTS 2.6.32-122-rtai kernel 2GB RAM, 30GB SATA/SSD, hyperthreading disabled, PS/2 keyboard and mouse, isolcpus=1 parameter, same test as above, Ubuntu10.04LTS 2.6.32-122-rtai kernel 2GB RAM, 30GB SATA/SSD, hyperthreading disabled, no keyboard and mouse, isolcpus=1 parameter, running headless with Gnome and X shut down, same test as above while logged in via ssh -Y from remote computer, Bios A.M. 1014.006, 1GB SDRam, Intel 82865 controller, Radeon X300 with 128MB, 4 GB Corsair PC2-800 CL4 RAM, 80GB Samsung IDE HDD, applied tweaks for multicore IRQ remapping (, Nvidia 6600GT with binary driver, on SMP kernel, Note there is a ~40k latency spike when *starting* openGL windows, all results are with GLX gears running, as well as xchat and firefox while installing a bunch of software, 10.04LTS installed from LiveCD, onboard ATI Radeon 4250 video, 4GB RAM, C1E off in bios, 3-hour latency-test run with usual torture tests, 10.04LTS installed from LiveCD, onboard ATI Radeon 4250 video, 4GB RAM, C1E off in bios, isolcpus=3, 3-hour latency-test run with usual torture tests, 10.04LTS, Defaults in BIOS glxgears, Surf web, youtube videos, 10.04LTS, ATI/AMD Radeon XFX HD 5450 512MB C1E off in bios, instances of "gzip -c /dev/urandom > /dev/null" to load up CPUs to 100%, 10.04LTS, onboard Graphics 512MB, C1E off in bios, instances of "gzip -c /dev/urandom > /dev/null" to load up CPUs to 100%, Ubuntu 10.01 Live CD, PNY PCI-E GeForce 7300 256mb, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, 2G DDR2 1066 Ram (2) 1g sticks, Mesa 5i20, onboard Intel GMA X4500 Video, Intel G41 Chipset, Disabled ACPI, everything just worked, 512mB RAM, AGP video card running "vesa" driver (STG4000 [3D Prophet Kyro Series] (rev 01)).
Cloudflare Ray ID: 7d18b8117a8fec5c Queries running on the source server and secondary server. Numbers over 1 millisecond (1,000,000 nanoseconds) mean the PC is not a good candidate for LinuxCNC, regardless of whether you use software stepping or not. 2x 256MB Kingston RAM (512 MB). Many LGA775 systems seems to be able to hit low latency numbers as well.
The Netmos cards are
Dual channel RAM can greatly decrease latency. Example:
Thanks, disabling BIOS power management made a huge difference. After about half an hour a come back and started the cyclictest again from the same terminal and the value went up to about 7500. also have some disadvantages: The best way to find out how well your PC will lrun LinuxCNC
Numbers over 1 millisecond (1,000,000 nanoseconds) mean
yes, I think that's in line with my guess - the base thread keeps the cache hot for the servo thread; if the base thread is on a different core, it keeps the 'wrong' cache hot and the servo thread's cache lines get evicted anyway, eventually Intel's Cache Allocation Technology will have a similar effect, but that is Intel-only and only on very recent Xeon CPU's, seems to me your base thread is poor man's CAT ;), this observation would also suggest that moving anything not strictly RT away from the RT host (i.e. Displays the IO thread error message, if any. If you let the Computer run for about 30 min. ATI Radeon RV100 QY (VE/7000) AGP Card. Normally, CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO made things just too massive to ship, but there's a new option: CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_SPLIT which keeps the vmlinuz/*.ko smaller.. The problem is on this test, that it depends very strongly on the time you start the test after booting the PC. 52.33.21.240 ATI 3D Rage IIC AGP Card. the latency test checks to see what the worst case numbers are.
Displays the SQL thread error message, if any.
On my "work machine" I started cyclictest after installing the kernel and got a value around 1200, then I went away, leaving the machine doing nothing, except waiting. You should run the test for at least several minutes; sometimes
kernel for the raspberry2 today, it's already in the deb.machinekit.io OK, I hacked latency-test to accept arguments $1 and $2, which were the cpu numbers for base and servo thread respectively.
Asus GeoForce 210 1GB DDR3 (EN210SILENTDI3) video (proprietary driver "current") + PC 3GB DDR2 RAM + PCI parport Manhattan 158220 - 20 hr test max spike numbers 30% more than typical for all numbers. ven 8 apr 2016, 09.14.34, CEST Spike coincides w/ maximizing flash video window in Firefox. Check out the MySQL binlog replication overview. Realtime extensions allow processes to guarantee strict timing requirements, often down to the tens of microseconds.
(*) "cpu hog": a computer program that eats unneeded processor speed on your computer to appear that it is doing more than it actually is, or it's just coded really badly. The idea is to put the PC through its paces while
Thus, in trying to ensure fair distribution of CPU time among all processes, the kernel can prevent other events from occurring. On-board GPU - Disable when using PCI-E GPU. 4GB Ram, isolcpus=1, C1E/C3/C6 suspend states disabled in BIOS, ATI Radeon 2400HD w/ "radeon" driver. Gemi @kinsamanka built an RT-PREEMPT kernel for the raspberry2 today, it's already in the deb.machinekit.io apt repo: That kernel is not yet ready, there's still some issues when all cores are get good results, but your maximum step rate might be a little
(In Ubuntu, from Applications Accessories Terminal)
the max latency is more like 30-50 microseconds, you can still
Run latency-test in one terminal, and in the other, enter the following line, which will run forever (until you press ctrl-C): In my experience, the "cpu hog" (*) is able to reduce latencies from 10-20 microseconds down to perhaps 5-7uS. jitter values will increase (around 5-7%). After executing this process for a pre-determined time-slice, the standard Linux kernel could preempt the task and give the CPU to another one (e.g. The little I've played with a Peempt-rt machine, this is what I found. Only for those interrupts that are related to the RTLinux, the appropriate interrupt service routine is run. Even when updated reports of complete incompatibility with rtai kernels, usb does not work etc. Usage: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FixingSMIIssues. In this state. From various permutations, it appears that only assigning both to the same CPU will get close to the result obtained allowing the default cpu affinity to operate. You might already be familiar with the non-realtime performance, say, when you are listening to the music played using 'mpg123' or any other player. workstation 2x quad core without kernel boot options processor.max_cstate=1 idle=poll CPU (one of 8) info below; same as above, but with processor.max_cstate=1 idle=poll boot option; J1900 motherboard, with processor.max_cstate=1 idle=poll boot option the difference between 1 and 2 are visible. On-board Intel GMA graphics. Numbers over 1 millisecond (1,000,000 nanoseconds) mean
Represents the binary log file that the replica server is reading from the source server.
If you have compiled RTAPI against SMP kernel headers, then RTAPI will automatically use the highest numbered CPU for realtime tasks. Disabeling of components doesn't have to much impact. Networking OFF. 2x Fans. linux-firmware-image-rt-4.1.18-rt17-v7+ - Linux kernel firmware, version 4.1.18-rt17-v7+ To run the test, open a terminal window
when you do some particular action.
T: 0 ( 1210) P:80 I:10000 C: 10000 Min: 0 Act: 18 Avg: 20 Max: 47 stepping. If
Latest bios, Integrated Graphics (all three dedicated cards tried yielded results above 150k), 2GB RAM, SSD, dual parallell port pci card, multicore turned off (running single core style), all performance options but thermal monitor disabled in bios. 4 GB Ram (DDR2 - 800), 80GB HDD, BIOS Version A18, BIOS Settings changed to use only one core, all power saving options disabled. Now running 9 glxgears and 2 looping 1280x720 videos, watching YouTube. Let the test run for at least 15 minutes (it has been suggested that the longer the better let it run for a day or overnight for instance) while you run glxgears or a similar application to stress the cpu.
You can also try checking the InnoDB Standard Monitor and Lock Monitor Output to help in resolving locks and deadlocks and minimize replication lag. address listed (b800). The hardware can be put into two different categories depending on how it will interface with the PrintNC.The two main options are either: When using alternative 1, a PC with a parallel break-out-board, the requirement for low latency and jitter is higher than alternative 2. Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. try restricting Linux from using one processor core. is to run the HAL latency test.
320mb RAM.
Many LGA775 systems seems to be able to hit low latency numbers as well. This is probably because the default affinity was not fixed, as could be seen by some movement when looking at top with latency-test running. I'm tuning a Dell Inspirion Pentium DualCore E2180 to run a yet to be purchased 7i96e Mesa card. The IO thread connects to the source server and requests updated binary logs. Support currently exists for version 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 Linux kernels with real time extensions applied by RT-Linux or RTAI patches. One PCI slot takes one low-profile card only (Mesa 5i25 fits fine). improvment on Zynq platforms but it should work also on other multiprocessor architectures). C. I think latency-test predates cyclictest, and it worked on RTAI is well, so made sense back then, heads up on stap: I stumbled across this interesting tool on HN, was not aware of this, It allows ad-hoc probes and histograms of kernel functions
use software stepping or not.
The best way to find out what you are dealing with is
Below is a screenshot showing a latency plot on a quadcore machine running with boot option "isolcpus=1,2,3" but without "idle=poll" or "nohlt". What can be done about improving latency? disappointing, especially if you use microstepping or have very
Indicates the current SQL thread status.
Latency is far more important than CPU speed. The initial post is updated now and contains a zip. the max latency is more like 30-50 microseconds, you can still
The initialization code for a realtime tasks initializes the realtime task structure and informs RTLinux kernel of its deadline, period, and release-time constraints. Normally, the status is "Waiting for master to send event" if the source (master) server is synchronizing. machinekit@machinekit:~$` sudo cyclictest -t1 -p 80 -n -i 10000 -l 10000 Detailed spec. BASE_THREAD that makes the periodic heartbeat that serves as a
Low profile desktop with mini ATX board and Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) chipset & 82865G graphics.
The CPU hog running makes sure the CPU is never idle->never sleeps->never requires long wakeup time. (the one that attaches with a ribbon cable) uses the first
Improving replication latency by tuning the source server parameters. Onboard video - Di/sable power saving in bios - Nice machine, Firefox, Ooo 3.0, Boot with wireless PCMCIA card seems to give immediate unacceptable results (>1.8ms), requires more checking - should check latency-test after boot, 1GB RAM - Integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics, Intel 915G chipset, BIOS ver.A04, 512MB, Only 2 PCI slots, Intel 815 chipset, nVidea NV34 GeForce FX5200 AGP 128mb video(upgrade), Admtek NC100 10/100 network, 512Mb PC133 ram, legacy usb=disabled and PNP OS=YES, COM1=enabled, LPT=Bidirectional in bios, open glxgears two dozen times and rescaled a small image to 10000 its size, Intel 4 series onboard Video. Learn more. my 0,5 cents: I have noticed that on some systems opening a file can cause a jump in latency. Disabled Audio and the 2 serial ports.
If your Max Jitter number is less
kernel options: isolcpus=1 lapic quiet rootdelay=5 intel_idle.max_cstate=0 processor.max_cstate=0 idle=poll. However, software step pulses
If the numbers are 100 uS or more (100,000 nanoseconds), then the PC is not a good candidate for software stepping. see debian instructions - needs a package and the -dbg version of the kernel image, to those building kernels (@cdsteinkuehler @claudiolorini @kinsamanka @zultron @the-snowwhite @RobertCNelson) - it might make sense to add these config options to our kernels in the future: https://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/SystemTapWithSelfBuiltKernel. This test is the first test that should be performed on a PC
See these pages:
CPU undervolted to reduce baseclock to 2.8GHz to keep cooler with idle=poll and cstate. Isolcpus made a pretty big difference on the i5 cpu machine I was messing with. from that, the default affinity makes no distinction between threads from the same process and puts them on the same CPU, hence the cache filling effect works. I'll read up and post my results. the CNC stack, UI's etc) will reduce cache contention and might be beneficial, as for the 'tools in the bag' theme, I think we should give perf a closer look - the list of pre-defined events looks interesting (cache-misses etc). cache between invocations of the thread. The Linux kernel sees the realtime layer as the actual hardware. For LinuxCNC the request is The 4.4.38-rt49 kernel I made has (looking at max latency) 50% poorer performance (just compiled the kernel, no tweaking). PCW at your knolige it is very easy to do this. slot you put them into, so if you like to 'get under the hood'
I have not performed any tests on AMD based systems, but I think the "idle=poll" should also work on those.
Sinlge HDD and CD-ROM. T: 0 ( 998) P:80 I:10000 C: 10000 Min: 0 Act: 18 Avg: 23 Max: 64. on the rpi2 I needed a minor tweak to get cyclictest to work: i386/j1900 mobo/4.1.10-rt10mah rt-preempt results: This is a welcome thread! To keep things this way, we finance it through advertising and shopping links. As of yet I got sorta good results when I use an i386 installation, with a 4.1.36-rt42 kernel.
seconds it had a very bad 300 us latency. Thus the kernel has the ability to suspend any user-level task, once that task has outrun the time-slice allotted to it by the CPU. What method do you recommend for binding threads as opposed to processes? reboot.
The action you just performed triggered the security solution. Results may vary by 1000 ns from one invocation to another (e.g., by a few microseconds). Runs great with Ubuntu 8.04. has one very big advantage - its free.
So the RT code doesn't get flushed out of cache, and doesn't have to get fetched back into cache later. Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. Latency was higher than 10.04 but nonetheless it ran the 201 Gecko much better than 10.04, 1 GB Ram, 8.04 Live CD (wouldn't run 10.04), 1 GB Ram, Debian Wheezy live USB, note ran decent on 8.04 but crap on Wheezy. Record this number, and enter it in Stepconf when it is requested. The effect is equal to that of hogging one CPU core. linux-image-rt-4.1.18-rt17-v7+ - Linux kernel, version 4.1.18-rt17-v7+, mah@raspberrypi:~/rt-tests $ sudo cyclictest -t1 -p 80 -n -i 10000 -l 10000, policy: fifo: loadavg: 0.33 0.25 0.15 1/179 1465, T: 0 ( 1462) P:80 I:10000 C: 10000 Min: 11 Act: 15 Avg: 14 Max: 42. seconds it had a very bad 300 us latency. To view this additional lock and deadlock information, run the show engine innodb status\G command. Copy some large files
If your "Max Jitter" number is less than about 15-20 microseconds (15000-20000 nanoseconds), the computer should give very nice results with software stepping. The SQL thread reads the relay log and then applies the data changes on replica servers. That performed about twice as good as no "cpu hogs", but it performed best as shown here with one CPU maxed out. Test run for 7h with glxgears (and screensaver). 4Gb RAM. This test is the first test that should be performed on a PC to see if it is able to drive a CNC machine. Might not be too good for any userspace programs trying to get a look in on that core though! I turned off "CPU EIST Function", "Virtualization Technology", and C2 and C1E idle states in BIOS, and got 46 s max latency while watching YouTube videos: Some further testing shows that the culprit was the EIST function: Yes, I think Speed-step basically stalls the processor while it waits for the voltage. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FixingSMIIssues. For LinuxCNC the request is
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T: 0 ( 7155) P:80 I:10000 C: 10000 Min: 9 Act: 10 Avg: 10 Max: 21 Via a set of relatively simple modifications, it manages to convert the existing Linux kernel into a hard realtime environment without hindering future Linux development. On Mar 6, 2016 2:06 AM, "Michael Haberler" notifications@github.com wrote: Gemi @kinsamanka https://github.com/kinsamanka built an RT-PREEMPT The RTLinux kernel accomplishes realtime performances by removing such sources of unpredictability as discussed above.
used (try the --smp flag on cyclictest) :-/. Click to reveal Surf the web. Make sure the source server is running, or check to see whether a firewall is blocking the connection.
If the Max Jitter is more like 30-50 microseconds, you can still get good results, but your maximum step rate might be a little disappointing, especially if you use microstepping or have very fine pitch leadscrews. If you purchase using a shopping link, we may earn a commission. LinuxCNC does not require bleeding edge hardware. each and every time can give better results
So, what do the results mean? HAL Latency Test
A lowly Pentium II that responds to interrupts within 10 microseconds
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Thus the user-task will be executed in realtime. We can consider the RTLinux kernel as sitting between the standard Linux kernel and the hardware. Compute tier of the source server and secondary read replica server. has one very big advantage - its free. So what does the latency/jitter mean in real-world speed?For a software stepping we can calculate the maximum step rate with this example, using the standard DM542 drivers, a worst case latency of 25 s and safe base thread interval: Keep in mind that this is for 1 axis and not a golden formula since other factors might come into play as well such as acceleration. WARN: Cache allocation not supported on model name ' Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770S CPU @ 3.10GHz'! linux-headers-rt-4.1.18-rt17-v7+ - Linux kernel headers for 4.1.18-rt17-v7+ on armhf Those updates are saved on a replica server, in a local log called the. T: 0 ( 1142) P:80 I:10000 C: 10000 Min: 0 Act: 18 Avg: 23 Max: 73 Getting your hands on an SSD can help as well. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub. If it did not, I advise you to revert to your old settings because running the system this way will cause the cpu to run hotter and use more energy. applications are started or used. Note: Axis choked using on-board video. latency-plot makes a strip chart recording for a base and a servo
To run the test, open a terminal window (In Ubuntu, from Applications Accessories Terminal) and run the following command: latency-test You should see something like this: Figure 1. T: 0 ( 1104) P:80 I:10000 C: 10000 Min: 0 Act: 18 Avg: 20 Max: 42 USFF but three SATA, one 5.25 bay, one 3.5 bay. one that boots up the X server or Netscape). each and every time can give better results
These . If your Max Jitter number is less
glxgears running @ 390 fps. It needs to be consistent ALL the time regardless of machine state or usage. (hase) I disagree with the assesment: the CPU hog does improve latency, but it has nothing to do with the cache. Displays the SQL thread error code, if any. apt repo: mah@raspberrypi:~/rt-tests $ apt-cache search 4.1.18-rt17-v7+ Sinlge HDD and CD-ROM. The servo thread latency varies wildly up to tens of microseconds up to around t=60s. With a current newer kernel the latency got improved w.r.t nr 1 here #792 (comment), Here are my results without any optimisatiions, I think to use MESA 7i76E quiete ok, In the background was 2 x glxgears, 1 x latency test and surfing in the internet and getting linuxcnc, interesting article: https://lttng.org/blog/2016/01/06/monitoring-realtime-latencies/, btw we're on good terms with the LTTNG folk, I have "stolen" the BIOS settings from https://github.com/sirop/mk/blob/master/Machinekit-Xenomai-Thinkpad-X200.md#konfiguration-linux--xenomai, Set them all except xeno_hal.smi=1 . Latency is how long it takes the PC to stop what it is doing and respond to an external request. loads obtaining 'reasonable' results around 60 max. Copied /usr around a couple of times for good measure. LinuxCNC runs on Linux using real time extensions. The best way to find out what you are dealing with is
7k for a period of time when the machine is idle doesn't count. Roughly 2 hour test. If there's latency, then this position sequence should be smaller than Read_Master_Log_Pos. Also tested with no CPUs isolated, but running four "cpu hogs". than the latest and fastest P4 Hyperthreading beast. (I don't remember the threshold
BIOS rolled back to version A10, all power saving options disabled. Audio disabled. Turn off all power management and Core2Duos states in the Bios, have at least 2gb of memory, and try isolcpus. If you have hyper threading enabled disable it. Represents the binary log file to which the source server is writing. So, what do the results mean? In the . I eventually realized that when I was running the thread very
4GB RAM, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, EIST off, C1E off, Spread Spectrum off, Disable Audio and network support, On-board video, Running GLXGEARS and reading PDFs.
Read more about calculations here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TweakingSoftwareStepGeneration. is to run the HAL latency test. fine pitch leadscrews. #554, I got 3 tests to add Latency Test. You'll need two terminals open for this. capable of outputting step pulses that are generated by the software. The Intel Core2Duo benefits greatly from the idle=poll parameter to the kernel, which disables the deep-sleep C-State of the CPU. the worst case latency doesnt happen very often, or only happens
Test load and machine configuration as per: Dual Ethernet card, dual parport card, Radeon HD3450, 2 ram sticks. It is now read-only. Onboard Graphics without problem DeLock. Also set fan to Enhanced - on all the time so no temp sensing- otherwise will have 64 sec spikes like smi, but smi module will not work with this chipset), Debian Wheezy, 2 GB RAM, Mainboard D2151 ATX, onboard GPU, Mesa 5i25 (Sound, LAN, PWM, DVD, Floppy, Card reader, Frontpanel & unused Ports disabled), Gentoo 3.4.55 RTAI, 8GB RAM with PAE, All power management disabled in BIOS, Disabled Spread Spectrum, Turbo Core, APM, C6, Cool'n'quiet, SVM, Cpu Throttle, Suspend to RAM, Athlon Dual Core 4850e and onboard graphic, 6GB Ram + Booted from 8.04 LiveCD + 10*Glxgears + 1hour, Onboard graphics, 8GB Ram, 10.04, 2.6.32 RTAI, All power management disabled in BIOS, Kernel options "isolcpus=1 acpi_irq_nobalance noirqbalance", Upstart script "irq-affinity.conf" to /etc/init, 3.2 GB RAM, Integrated AMD HD 6310 graphics with 384 MB, AMD Catalyst Version 10.12., Ubuntu 10.04, 2.6.32-122-rtai kernel, isolcpus=1, 1 hour test, 4 GB Kingston KHX1600C9D3K2/4GX RAM, 64GB OCZ Agility SSD, applied tweaks for multicore IRQ remapping, tested for 24 hours with 2 glxgears and flash/text firefox browser running, 2 GB RAM, BIOS:CPU MULTI=DISABLED CPU SMARTFAN=DISABLED Azealea and other unused devices=DISABLED, noirqbalance grub mod, 2 glxgears for 2 hours, 4 GB RAM, BIOS:CPU advance CPU settings all disabled, SMI enabled, no isolcpu used, tested with burnP5 and a big glxgears for 20 minutes, 4 GB RAM, BIOS:CPU advance CPU settings all disabled, SMI enabled, no isolcpu used, tested with burnP6 and 4 GLX gears, and focing the cpu in other ways with flash, and moving big files, 2 GB DDR2 800 Mhz. Latency-test comes with LinuxCNC, you can run it with 'latency-test' from the prompt. (stolen shamelessly from the [[RTlinux HOWTO http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/RTLinux-HOWTO.html]]. takes some time to wake up from that - hence the latency in reacting to the timer interrupt. Installed from Live CD (Debian, Onboard display 1920x1200 32GB ram KDE dphys-swapfile - Kernel commandline "quiet text isolcpus=2,3" - Buster PREEMPT_RT, 1 GB RAM, Debian Wheezy on HDD,Dissabled Onboard Sound&COM Ports, Disabled energy saving modes, 2 GB Ram, Debian Wheezy live USB, this box didn't run well on 8.04 or 10.04, either, 749MB RAM, 6GB HD, port 0x3BC, must boot with lapic option (details. In the example above, that is 9075 nanoseconds, or 9.075 microseconds. Indicates the position of the Relay_Master_Log_File that the replica is applying. JavaScript must be enabled in your browser to display the table of contents.
This repository has been archived by the owner on Mar 6, 2020. to run the RTAI latency test. A latency of maximum 10 s would mean that the base thread could be lowered to 15 s and step rates for the same scenario could equal speeds up to 20 meters per minute. If you have an Intel CPU, you might also want to check the output of the following command: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuidle/current_driver, If it says: intel_idle, you have to ALSO add the following line to the GRUB file: "intel_idle.max_cstate=0 processor.max_cstate=0". cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuidle/current_driver
motherboard worked pretty well most of the time, but every 64
To make things easy I've made 2 scripts so one can plot a nice histogram, as found on the OSADL website. Kingston SSD. Consequently, the continuity of the music is lost. SIIG LPT2 ISA Card. The important numbers are the max jitter.
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